Are the parties even what they say they are?

And let's not forget that Obama is also for indefinite detentions of terror suspects, who can now be held indefinitely without a trial by their peers, without any evidence being presented for the charge of being a terrorist. If we got out of the Middle East, we wouldn't have to deal with this mess and terrorism is the new means to control us and strip us of our freedoms that once made us great. Both parties are complicit in this mive crime so you're right, there isn't much difference, aside from rhetoric, between the 2 parties. Weren't Democrats supposed to be peace-loving, ACLU card carrying members? Sure can't tell that by their foreign policy.